2005-07-06 [Zab]: ::grin:: Well, those people get´s tired of my ? quite soon. I´m often bored here, otherwise I don´t answer them.

2005-07-06 [Lost in Illusions]: meh, if I'm extremely bored and am goign to die soon without something to do, I'll answer one of them, just to fuck with them.. it's fun arguing with someone who has no grammatical or verbal training. =)

2005-07-06 [Zab]: yeah...(hmm...you could argue with me then ><)

2005-07-06 [Lost in Illusions]: for some reason, everytime I think of "=)" I think of some sarcastic, fake smile, so that's when I use that.. *shrugs* o.o;;

2005-07-06 [Zab]: ok..Oo Now I know..

2005-07-06 [Lost in Illusions]: nah... youre fun.. I only argue with ignorant people who insist that their view is right and everyone else can basically fuck off. =) It's fun.

2005-07-06 [Zab]: yeah.....Well, everybody knows I´m always right so there are nothing to argue about...hehe

2005-07-06 [Lost in Illusions]: *eyeroll* youre just lucky I agree with most of your points.

2005-07-06 [Zab]: ::grins::just kidding. What time is it were you are?

2005-07-06 [Lost in Illusions]: only 12:48 pm here.

2005-07-06 [Zab]: 7 pm here.

2005-07-06 [Lost in Illusions]: damn.. where are you? I like nighttime... I wish I lived in a land that is like totally dark most of the day.. kinda like how Alaska is mostly light 23 hours of the day...

2005-07-06 [Zab]: ::lol:: I´m in sweden. Well, you could be in the most northen of sweden during winter, some days the sun doesn´t even raise there. But then again in summer it doesn´t go down..

2005-07-06 [Lost in Illusions]: I'd rather have 'normal' days... sun comes up, sun goes down. I want to move to Sweden for law school.. I've heard it pays for any degree above a bachelor's. Which I need.. I'm already paying too much for school now, =P

2005-07-06 [Zab]: well..I´m not sure we do..but I don´t know much about that. well, down here (in skåne) we have usual days.

2005-07-06 [~Saraneth~]: Wow . . . *blinks* lots happened while I was gone. Just to reinterate so everyone knos: This wiki is intended to stop people who have offensive sexual names, moods, and material on their houses; people who openly solicit cyber-sex upon their houses; deplorable and offense public wikis; and loafers (which you can find the definition of on the page.) 

2005-07-06 [Lost in Illusions]: yeah... sorry about that... =X I need to learn to staple my mouth shut so I dont start a huge argument with somenoe... anyway, I like it in winter... snowy.. usually cloudy.. and it's dark by 4 pm xD

2005-07-06 [Zab]: ::lol:: yeah. But I always gets winterdepressions...

2005-07-06 [Lost in Illusions]: yeah, everyone seems to get that way... I get depressed when the sun stays out too long... I burn and burning is no fun... I like being pale.

2005-07-06 [Zab]: ::lol:: I just am it, want it or not.

2005-07-06 [Lost in Illusions]: I could spend hours out in the sun, baking and burning.. then when all that peels off (after about a month) I'll go out again, and this time I'll tan, but I dont like tans on me, anyway, and it's too much pain just to sit out and get burnt to a shriveled raisin looking thing.

2005-07-06 [Zab]: ::luaghs:: yeah...so I just stay inside.

2005-07-06 [Lost in Illusions]: I do too, and when I have to go out, I wear long sleeves, and (I need to buy) a little black umbrella to keep away the sun.

2005-07-06 [Zab]: Weeell...I don´t use any umbrella..I just stay inside or use my cloak.

2005-07-06 [Lost in Illusions]: I dont have a cloak... closest I have is my beautiful victorian trenchcoat.. but some of the buttons are coming undone.. they're woven into the fabric, so I need to hotglue them back. I need head covering, which is why I want an umbrella... how terrible goffick of me, right?

2005-07-06 [Zab]: ::lol:: I guess.

2005-07-06 [Lost in Illusions]: I would use it for practical purposes, even if I do like how it looks.. heh. I just hate sun in my face, burning me up.. shade feels so good, so why not have "portable shade"?

2005-07-06 [Zab]: good question...but arn´t we a little 'off topic'' now?

2005-07-06 [Lost in Illusions]: well, that depends on which topic you mean.. if you mean the "cyber" topic, I dont hink weve been there for the past few hours... as for the one we were just on, I dont know.. *shrugs* What were we talking about?

2005-07-06 [Zab]: ::grin:: I meant the cyber topic...I´m never there, but after all, that´s what this wiki is for...

2005-07-06 [Zab]: Anyway, I´m off now. Bye.

2005-07-06 [Kitara Softpaw]: Note that I have vacated my spot...someone may claim it or you may rearrange...farewell

2005-07-06 [~Saraneth~]: Why are you leaving?

2005-07-07 [Zab]: dunno about acorna, but I needed to sleep.

2005-07-07 [Lady Edana-Arianrhod Rós]: Sleep is a good thing.

2005-07-07 [Blaze the Nameless]: Beware for [Lucy in the sky with diamonds] I know her name isn't much but just read her profile.

2005-07-09 [~Saraneth~]: did you post her in the Lists?

2005-07-09 [~Nyx~]: Can you people please take a look at these houses, and tell me what you think? [Twinkle Twinkle Little Bat] (there`s nothing here but sexual prefrence, and this member has not even written what sex he/she is...), and [69 Just Do It] (it seems to me that cybering is what her house is all about, and she`s only 13!)

2005-07-09 [Zab]: nothing to say about Xoxa= if he/she don´t wan´t any description it´s up to him/her. Except the name and the KPU-banner at just do it, ther´s nothing. But I guess the banner is enough to prove she/he cybers. If she/he don´t just like the poem..::grin:: I do, somehow.

2005-07-09 [~Nyx~]: ok, thanks ^^

2005-07-09 [Zab]: And actually...of course it´s possible that Just messages people and ask, but the only thing we know sorta for sure is that she´s on a wiki and do it. And there she won´t bother anyone. And of course she´s young, I can´t imagine anyone who had 'the real stuff' would think it is anything to cyber...

2005-07-09 [~Nyx~]: true, I was just wondering, because I`m not sure what`s acceptable or not. So I rather ask you, than bother the guards about it...:)

2005-07-09 [Zab]: wohaa! You think I know?! I have no idea! But I never report people at all that don´t bother me personally. And cyberers only bothers me when they ask..(don´t report then either, usually they stops as soon as I say I will..::sigh::) And I think that everyone that is suspected for cybering should be on one of the list here. ::shrugs:: Don´t know which..or even why actually.

2005-07-10 [~Saraneth~]: Well to give you any idea [~Nyx~] this particular wiki was created to stop ppl who: have offensive sexual names, moods, and material on their houses; people who openly solicit cyber-sex upon their houses; deplorable and offense public wikis; and loafers (which you can find the definition of on the page.) 

2005-07-10 [~Saraneth~]: Just as guidelines ^_^

2005-07-10 [~Nyx~]: thank you! ^^

2005-07-10 [Blaze the Nameless]: I have a question: how come people who like to cyber have to ask people who don't want to cyber? I mean, if they cyber then it's their business. Don't bother everyone else.

2005-07-11 [Lost in Illusions]: that's more a question that you should ask them... maybe they like to annoy those people? Or maybe theyre dislexic and cant read that is says "I DO NOT cyber"

2005-07-11 [~Saraneth~]: good point =^_^=

2005-07-11 [eyes of frost]: The cyber shack is no more, and my S&M page is what it originally was supposed to be.

2005-07-11 [~Saraneth~]: Thank you very much. 

2005-07-11 [Morrigon]: Hello all I just joined

2005-07-11 [eyes of frost]: -sighs and then walks out- Whatever. Its just...my whole S&M page should not have been blacklisted inthe first place.

2005-07-11 [Lost in Illusions]: I agree. It is just a forum for fellow S&M enjoyers and fetish fans.. not a big cyber thing.

2005-07-11 [eyes of frost]: Aye. Oh well. I guess it just offends some people.

2005-07-11 [Lost in Illusions]: people just take the social stigma that has been placed on certain subjects and automatically assume things.. like S&M, they think that because it's a fetish, it's supposed to be all taboo and anything associated with it is dirty and people are obviously talking dirty and smut on that S&M wiki... blah. I hate generalization.

2005-07-11 [Morrigon]: generalization is never good. But try to see it from different points of view. There are other places for those sort of things to be held. I don't think elftown is the right place.

2005-07-11 [Morrigon]: it doesn't look like a bad wiki. I doubt it is of any offence against you guys. but like your warning says on the wiki, there are idiots out there. and they will screw things up. I'm not sure if putting you on the list is needed. but your help is appreciated.

2005-07-11 [eyes of frost]: Aye. So do I.

2005-07-12 [lenardo]: Can I join this wiki

2005-07-14 [~Saraneth~]: Yes you may join, no need to ask. As for the other topic, I will thoroughly look over s&m and decide whether it belongs on the list or not. 

2005-07-14 [~Saraneth~]: I looked at the page and your wiki does not belong up there, [eyes of frost].

2005-07-14 [Blaze the Nameless]: What was the wiki?

2005-07-14 [Lost in Illusions]: S&M

2005-07-15 [eyes of frost]: Thank you.

2005-07-15 [eyes of frost]: OK I dont know where to put this guys name but he is disgusting and groady. His name I think is [hounddog100] I think. Soemthing to that affect.

2005-07-15 [eyes of frost]: and [cyber_on_the_river]

2005-07-15 [Blaze the Nameless]: Ew. That name is just gross.

2005-07-15 [eyes of frost]: Aye it is.

2005-07-15 [Lord Asriel]: [*Boo Boo*] has been added to the First Offenders page.

2005-07-15 [Lord Asriel]: [#1SeXy_MaMa]....what do you think? Should we put them on the First Offenders page or not?

2005-07-16 [Blaze the Nameless]: No, she doesn't seem to be muhc of a threat.

2005-07-18 [~Saraneth~]:

Notice Bye Bye everyone!

2005-07-18 [Blaze the Nameless]: Bye

2005-07-18 [Morrigon]: have fun

2005-07-20 [~Saraneth~]: Thank you but after today I WILL really be gone. lyl <3

2005-07-20 [AbLam]: Yayyy! I am back from the hospital!

2005-07-20 [Blaze the Nameless]: Ello!

2005-07-21 [AbLam]: [*Boo Boo*] is incredibly self-obsessed. Wow.

2005-07-21 [Morrigon]: wow, an incredibly ignorant person. How surprising...

2005-07-21 [Blaze the Nameless]: Make that ingorant and perverted.

2005-07-21 [Morrigon]: heh yes, how could I forget

2005-07-22 [Blaze the Nameless]: It's sad what kind of patheic losers you find.

2005-07-22 [Morrigon]: It's even more sad that you don't have to look very hard.

2005-07-22 [Blaze the Nameless]: That is also very sad

2005-07-22 [Lady Edana-Arianrhod Rós]: But very true

2005-07-22 [AbLam]: I bet half of them are bogus accounts anyways...

2005-07-22 [Lady Edana-Arianrhod Rós]: meaning?

2005-07-22 [AbLam]: They are never used, and mainly just made to annoy people.

2005-07-22 [AbLam]: [horny bitch 14]....haha. What a moron!

2005-07-22 [Morrigon]: oh my god why do these people come here???

2005-07-22 [Blaze the Nameless]: Because they have no life what-so-ever.

2005-07-23 [AbLam]: Heh Heh...guys, wer have no life whatsoever either....:S Blush.

2005-07-23 [*~A Cure For Contempt~*]: [staticwar12] is soliciting cyber sex...do i put her under first offenders?

2005-07-25 [Lady Edana-Arianrhod Rós]: yep

2005-07-25 [Lord Asriel]: HEY! I reported her too!

2005-07-25 [AbLam]: Heh Heh...good job, you two. :)

2005-07-25 [Morrigon]: Working together as a team ;P

2005-07-26 [Blaze the Nameless]: *applauds you both*

2005-07-29 [Blaze the Nameless]: Okay.

2005-08-04 [dribilie]: hey..ive come to join the fight against these sick people..i want them gone im so sick of seeing it and being asked for it

2005-08-04 [Morrigon]: YAY! welcome

2005-08-04 [dribilie]: yay!!thank you

2005-08-05 [~Saraneth~]: lol everyone as a note to the future: "Anyone who has been cybering or has cybering solicited upon there house goes to Second Offenders"

2005-08-07 [AbLam]: Wee, [~Saraneth~] is back! And so am I from New Brunswick!

2005-08-07 [~Saraneth~]: YAY *dances*

2005-08-07 [~Saraneth~]: I can see everyone did a good job while i was gone and I thank you all for you individualwork on this page. YAY for all!

2005-08-07 [Hopefull]: What is wrong with people cybering if they don't advertise / openly do it?

2005-08-07 [Zab]: yeah...as long as they don't ask every stranger they meet to cyber, I don't mind them...if they want to do such silly thing it's up to them..*shrugs

2005-08-07 [Hopefull]: Plus judging someone just because they cyber is like judging somone if they like to smoke or drink. It is their own accord, if they don't harass other people about it, I don't see a problem with it.

2005-08-07 [Zab]: Me neither. But most people who get listed shows quite much that they want to cyber (by asking everybody and have only that in their bio) and people who comes here only to cyber annoy me a bit, since this place is for artists and fantasylovers. If an artist here likes to cyber: their problem. But when they come here for nothing else...*shrugs* only my opinion.

2005-08-07 [Hopefull]: Point well made, but I don't agree to ban them, just give them a warning to go to Elfpack if that is all they are interested in...

2005-08-07 [Zab]: *shrugs* After several warnings, maybe. I dunno. To be honest, I made a house here just to test it out..(call me stupid or curious) didn't like it tho...very silly...and I left the account. *shrugs* Not harming anybody now, and wouldn't like to be banned for that. I think I'm more help unbanned *lol* I like to think that, at least.

2005-08-07 [Hopefull]: On the other hand people who do have other interests... should just go to a wiki made for cybering.

2005-08-07 [Zab]: *shrugs* As long as they're not here only to cyber, and don't harass others, I really don't mind or care. I barely care about those who are here only to cybere either, it's so simple to block them.

2005-08-07 [Hopefull]: ditto.

2005-08-07 [Zab]: don't really know what that means...

2005-08-07 [~Saraneth~]: [Zab] ditto means same here. [Hopefull] as the owner of this page, yes I agree with you about people doing away form public. My opinion is that I want all people soliciting it to stop here on ET. I have no real problem with cybering itself in privacy and away from Elftown. I actually have friends who do it but not here. I just don't approve of public cyber wikis, offense names, and the soliciting of scyber-sex with younger people around or anyone that is arounds that is offended by it all. That is why i made this wiki. bottom Line: We don't need it here on ET.

2005-08-09 [dribilie]: definately not..they need to go somewhere else

2005-08-09 [~Saraneth~]: thank you [dribilie]

2005-08-10 [dribilie]: no problem [~Saraneth~}

2005-08-11 [Morrigon]: very good point. the cyberers may not harass or bother some people but they do bother me. they send rude and disgusting messages to me and I'm sick of it. Elftown is NOT a place for that!

2005-08-11 [Morrigon]: roar

2005-08-11 [AbLam]: I agree with [Morrigon]--if they want to cyber, why not use their own private MSN or something instead of crowding up elftown with their stupid,boring messages and wikis?

2005-08-11 [Morrigon]: there are so many other places MADE for cybering so why come here? I know it's free and easy but I think people should be more stern about cybering here on elftown. I know things are being done against it and that's awesome so I won't really complain about that...I'll just encourage it.

2005-08-11 [AbLam]: Yeah, but personally I think that cyberers are a lot more harmless than, say, wiki destroyers.

2005-08-11 [~Saraneth~]: True enough. But you can report wiki destroyers here also under major offenders.

2005-08-12 [AbLam]: Oh okay then.

2005-08-13 [dribilie]: yeah...thats what i think too...about uing a messenger..and there are plenty of free chat rooms everywhere for then to go and crowd and be gross in

2005-08-13 [AbLam]: Yeah totally. I mean, beside the point of it being a website for art lovers, what is the point of cybering? I don't really think that people should go around automatically banning anyone who mentions anything about cybering, but seriously, there are kids under 13 who use the net...of course, most of them don't go looking for cyber forums. At least, none that I've met. =)

2005-08-13 [~Narobi~]: Your first offenders page seriously needs some work. It is totally unfair to pretty much everyone. Half the people on there have onnly had offensive moods and don't even have them anymore. Before you target someone as a 'potential cyberer' (Which is quite paranoid, if you ask me, but then again, you didn't)-check out their entire house, not their mood. Bottom line: If you don't like cybering don't do it. P.S. I am not a cyberer. I just think that this wiki is paranoid and somewhat stupid.

2005-08-13 [Zab]: hm...I can agree on that..but I probably shouldn't say so..*looks around as I expected a knife in my back* Sure it's paranoid! But that doesn't mean they are not after us, as we all know,,>_>. Gee, I'm to tired in the mornings to answer this..hehe..bye! *leaves before I make even more fool out of myself*

2005-08-13 [Morrigon]: It's great to see new members speaking up on things they haven't had to deal with for a while but excuse us, some things need to be taken care of. Bottom line, you got me here? Elftown is not built for cyberers in any way or form, in fact another place has been built for them, it's called ELFPACK. there is absolutely no reason for them to be here any more. Strict places like this have been formed because members coming here should already know the base rules. people gather here and support the fact that we're sick of perverted people coming here and harassing others who want to express themselves in a production artistic way, not jerk off in front of a computer screen.

2005-08-13 [Zab]: yeah sure, nobody should harass anyone, and these cyberers often do that. It's true. But still, if here are an artist who likes to cyber (but don't ask in every house they pass, of course) I don't see what's wrong, therefor all this might be a little..harsh? *shrugs* Then again, maybe it need to be harsh before it can relaxe later... Sure, cyberers don't belong here, they have EP. Still, I think that it's nothing wrong with the act of cybering (very silly and quite stupid: yes. but wrong..?*shrugs*) it's the harassment of those who dislike it that's wrong. Well, I've stated my opinion, I won't argue more. I do understand why this page is here, afterall.

2005-08-13 [~Saraneth~]: lol yes . . . [~Narobi~] you are right it is. But I have been trying to update the whole page. I, the owner, have been gone for about a month and I am the only one with the real authority to take them off. I will promise that at one point all the paranoia-induced black-listings will be revoked. Its just i need to get more time to do it. Also, another reason why people have been kept on the list. Younger children do come to this site. They do not need see or read houses that are offensive in any way, shape, or form. This page is not only for cyberers, thought that is its main focused purpose, it is also to rid Elftown of offense trash, loafers, and others not here for the . . . >

2005-08-13 [~Saraneth~]: enjoyment of the original focus of Elftown. I needn't explain that further.

2005-08-13 [dribilie]: i dont think that anybody artist or otherwise needs to be here to cyber..like we all said before ther are other places for them other artist sites..there are little kids here who dont need to read about how some sicko is touching themselves..im 16 and i dont even want to hear about it.

2005-08-13 [~Saraneth~]: Glad to hear it. If you did want to hear about it that would scare me shitless.

2005-08-13 [~Saraneth~]: But seriously, it's true. Every word. And that is why I created this wiki.

2005-08-13 [Zab]: As I said, if people want to cyber it's their buisness. As long as they keep it to be their buissness. (by not braging about it, put it in their descripton, messaging everybody etc..) and as long as cybering not is the reason they come here. *shrugs* Why do I bother. You have your opinions and I have mine. Mainly the same: People who comes here only to cyber and harass others should be somewere else.

2005-08-13 [~Saraneth~]: Yep. I agree with you. I have said before I'll comply with private wikis for cyber as long as they are not solicited. I just don't want younger kids to see offensive material. But a wiki open to the public to find or come across is NOT what I consider 'private'. Just because you don't solicite it does not mean it is private. Also, I hate loafers and think they shouldn't really be here either.

2005-08-13 [Zab]: sure. And no, they shouldn't be here.^_^

2005-08-13 [~Saraneth~]: ^_^ YAY! I love how you agreed with me! Most ppl say well they have as much right as you to be here. I think they take up space and are as retarded as all get-out! I don't care if they have rights! They don't contribute anything to the Elftown world! *Rant over* Sorry I have just been soo sick of these houses with one-liner Descrips. ^_^U

2005-08-13 [Zab]: *lol* hmm..how do you define loafers? *hopes it's not everyone who don't have any elfwood account..thinking of my own quite short bio..hmm...*

2005-08-13 [dribilie]: we could do without the loafers...therer are alot of people who could not be here..hmm...

2005-08-13 [Zab]: yupyup...as long as they don't harm..but then again, I'm too softhearted..and there are an awful lot of them..*sighs* I'm going to bed. Bye. ^_^ Have a nice time.

2005-08-14 [AbLam]: Yeah, I agree with the EP thing..isn't taht the thing with no guards on it? What's the difference between a private wiki and an open wiki?

2005-08-14 [Zab]: A private wiki don't have any link to it, from a house or another wiki. An open wiki can be advertised.^_^ And there are Guards on EP, but less rules.^_^

2005-08-14 [AbLam]: O ok...so a private wiki could be like...for example...banners or something? Like a link inside a wiki that isn't advertised?

2005-08-14 [Zab]: no, that a wiki is private just means that there are no links to it. ^_^

2005-08-14 [~Saraneth~]: Go to Loafers and you will see what a loafer is. I do not have an Elfwood account, and I do not consider you a loafer [Zab].

2005-08-14 [~Saraneth~]: Oh, and a private wiki is not advertised and many of them are not listed in the big wiki index. Also, most of the private wiks have passwords to get in.

2005-08-14 [Zab]: ok. *relieved* I could be one..Oo

2005-08-14 [~Saraneth~]: No. you participate in the community by being a part of this wiki. Therefore, youare not a loafer by my definition.

2005-08-14 [Zab]: good.^_^ I'm a part here..oops, forgot. *lol* Don't help much, do I? Mostly arguing XD. but sure, I help ET when I can.

2005-08-14 [~Saraneth~]: Well you said you'd read my story. That is at least participating in helping a writer. ^_^

2005-08-14 [Zab]: *lol* If you say so. I'm a part of Elftown Graphics Group too, so maybe I am doing something.. XP. Not much tho.

2005-08-14 [~Saraneth~]: That is something. The only thing I do for Elftown is this wiki and I am part of Take ET Back. And I'm writing the story for people to see. not much for me either. XD

2005-08-14 [Zab]: *lol* Nobody can do everything.

2005-08-14 [~Saraneth~]: lol that's true

2005-08-14 [Zab]: ^__^ oh, and I did the most of an official badge. *lol*

2005-08-14 [~Saraneth~]: oooo neato.   Do you think this page has been a success? ^_^U Sorry to get off topic.

2005-08-14 [Zab]: Well, it's much work in it. Maybe it is too strict, but as I said before: once ET have become cleaner it can be less harsh. So basicly, I would say: yes. ^_^

2005-08-14 [eyes of frost]: You know what? There should be a page for people who just plainly don't belong on elftown. I think that page would be extenuasly(sp) long.

2005-08-14 [~Saraneth~]: Yes, a page like that would be nice, but it would also would be imminently unappealing to [Hedda]. Remember what happened to empty homes?

2005-08-15 [eyes of frost]: Aye. I do. Now that I think about it...maybe it is not worth it.

2005-08-15 [~Saraneth~]: They never got rid of the page but . . . if someone whined to [Hedda], he might get pissed at the effort. lol, I never can figured out why tho'. 

2005-08-15 [AbLam]: Yeah, OI can't see why he got so mad about that...

2005-08-15 [~Saraneth~]: Me either but w/e. he must have his reasons

2005-08-15 [AbLam]: Maybe, but I can't see what..I mean, you wre just saying the houses wre unoccupied and there was no reason to have them on Elftown; soooo...

2005-08-15 [~Saraneth~]: I know it's lame but [Hedda]'s word is law on ET.

2005-08-15 [AbLam]: Yeah, I noticed..but why [Hedda]?

2005-08-16 [dribilie]: i saw a house yesterday and the person hadnt been on in like 156 days..i should go find it again..then we could get a really big list and send it to [Hedda] then explain that we're only doing it to help

2005-08-16 [eyes of frost]: I think he is annoyed of that because so many people come here become members and then leave. he knows about the problem..and he just is getting annoyed when people bring it to his attention.

2005-08-16 [Zab]: He don't think it's any use, it just messes up the member numbers. Just let it be, he'll just get pissed anyway.

2005-08-16 [eyes of frost]: I know that. I was just saying that might be the reason for him being annoyed. But I was wrong.

2005-08-16 [Zab]: Sorry, I didn't see your comment, I was answering dribilie. ^_^''

2005-08-16 [eyes of frost]: Oh...sorry. Please ignore my comment then. -:D

2005-08-16 [Zab]: No worries.^_^

2005-08-16 [dribilie]: hmm...well it sucks..its such a waste of space..and who cares about the member numbers...i should ask him about all this..and so be it if he gets mad

2005-08-16 [Zab]: o.ô..well, if the membernumbers messes up, Elftown can get some problems. And sure, you go and piss him off, that's a good idea. Then we might have a new empty house here: yours after you getting banned. I don't really think he's very pleased with how Elftown have became, or all people whining about it. And I'm pretty sure he have his reasons not to do everything suggested. He know more about elftown that anybody else here does, and there are surely problems we don't even know of that stops him from just deleting all stuff.

2005-08-16 [Zab]: Just be grateful for what he've given you all here instead, absolutly free! He've spent a lot of time to fix ET and keeping it as nice as possible, and I get really pissed when people whines about details. If here are assholes, treat them like they deserve, if ET is slow sometimes: deal with it! Have patience.

2005-08-16 [eyes of frost]: Wow Zab, you voiced what I was thinking. Although the page was my idea...and I apologize for it...sorely.

2005-08-16 [AbLam]: Whoa, [Hedda] designed Elftown? There's something I didn't know...

2005-08-16 [Zab]: Why do you think he have the ultimate power? O_o *shrugs* As far as I know he did. And , eyes of defrost: making a page that pisses someone off when you're trying to help is one thing (II think you talked about empty homes?) to insist in sending lists from the page to the person it pisses off is harassment.

2005-08-16 [Zab]: (Wow..I sounded like a guard or something tere..sorry, just telling my opinion..*lol*)

2005-08-16 [dribilie]: i dontwant to piss him off or anything..but if i were him i would take the new members and fill in the blanks..if i could

2005-08-16 [Zab]: that's the thing: We don't know which obsticles there can be. If he says no, and he does obviously, he surely have a reason for it.

2005-08-16 [dribilie]: yeah oh well..are we still posting loafers tho??

2005-08-16 [Zab]: No idea...am I still a member here? hmm..was I ever a member..O.o

2005-08-16 [~Saraneth~]: Yes, Loafers are still being posted. I like having a list of people who are just that, loafers and of course. I like avoiding them. They are usaully hi-mailers as well. Apart form that, they are usaully considered offensive in one way or the next. If you find it pointless then so be it. I like associating with people who contribute to Elftown, in any way or form.

2005-08-16 [~Saraneth~]: Oh and I did not mean to sound snotty in that last paragraph O.o. [Zab], whether you like it or not, you are now officially signed up as a member. Even tho' we all know you already were ^_^. Oh, and as long as you comment here, I will not allow you to take yourself off the list unless you really, really want to. 

2005-08-16 [Zab]: darn..Oo...I think ET hates me anyway..

2005-08-16 [~Saraneth~]: Um . . . why?

2005-08-17 [Zab]: I sent a message, it didn't work so I pressed refresh-button and got a note ''stop pressing those links, stupid!" err...I was banned on EP for like 2 minutes after pressing a link, maybe I should add, and I'm paranoid..-_-'' (don't wanna get banned...-_- nice people here..eh..I'm actually shivering..Oo..pranoia..)

2005-08-17 [eyes of frost]: NOOO. I wasn't insisting on sending it. And I wasn't talking about empty homes. I just suggested and I didn't really mean make the page like that.

2005-08-17 [Zab]: I was ''attacking'' (excuse the wording) dribilie, not you! *lol* I think everybody got my point now, agreeing or not, so it's really no reason to rant further..*lol

2005-08-17 [~Saraneth~]: lol ranting is most of the time ok on this page. it's the ful-blown fights that are bad

2005-08-17 [Zab]: Still, I think everybody knows what I think now.^_^

2005-08-17 [~Saraneth~]: oh, yeah true ^^